Them or Us

Let us make man:

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

When giving an account of this that we call the creation of this existence, we learn that this creation was created out of, or from what is known as the beginning:

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

We want to establish two things right up front, that is, we want to learn what this beginning is, where it existed, and what was the purpose of this existence that was created in, notice it said In, which establishes the fact that this existence was created in Truth:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

We can say that this existence did not, or was not created from that which Is not the truth, but from that which is truth, which is Jesus Christ, and further we can say for sure that this that is truth, it is the beginning, not the beginning of god, nor the beginning  of the son of god, but this that was created, namely this earth, and those that was place into this earth, they were created in the beginning.

This is why that I have stated that unless you understand this Garden of Eden, and what took place in this Garden, you cannot know this Mystery that was hidden from the foundations of the world.

Job 24:1 Why, seeing times are not hidden from the Almighty, do they that know him not see his days?

Those that are hid from this mystery, they believe that they can do just as this Beast told Eve; they can become their own god.

This was the sole reason of the Beast to approach, or that which Eve did, as she approached this tree of knowledge of good and evil, simply it tells us that as long as we take that which is good, or as we take this law, which Paul said was good:

1 Timothy 1:6-10 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm. But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary
Job 24:12

v1-12 Job discourses further about the prosperity of the wicked. That many live at ease who are ungodly and profane, he had showed, ch. xxi. Here he shows that many who live in open defiance of all the laws of justice, succeed in wicked practices; and we do not see them reckoned with in this world. He notices those that do wrong under pretence of law and authority; and robbers, those that do wrong by force. He says, "God layeth not folly to them;" that is, he does not at once send his judgments, nor make them examples, and so manifest their folly to all the world. But he that gets riches, and not by right, at his end shall be a fool, Jer 17:11.

What Job is saying, this that god does not do right up front, it does not mean that god does not know about it, it tells us that as in verse one, they cannot see,  those that wrong their fellow man, those that use this law, or take this law, mix it with this fruit from this tree, that which is the same tree that Eve took fruit from, meaning that she was deceived into believing that she could be her own god, to determine her destiny, and she would not have to answer to god.

You see, this beast which was subtle, meaning he would  do anything to get himself back into the position that he had when god create him in this same beginning, as I said, god created him to be this which god saw that it was good, just like when he created all of this existence, god said over and over that it was good, or that god saw it was good.

Yes, this Beast was good, simply because he was created out of this same beginning, or out of this which is truth.

The problem was, he is like we are, and it is no different today as King Solomon said:

Ecclesiastes 3:15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.

King Solomon is saying that what this Beast did, when he held this dominion that was being transferred into this race of what is called Adam, being both male and female, this Dominion was what this beast had, as he was just like us, with the exception he was not create from the dust of the earth, he was created in Jesus Christ, or the beginning, and was this Angel of this highest stature, or given charge over all the other Angels;

Ezekiel 28:11-15 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Here is this Incarnation of this Beast, and here is this Incarnation of this Garden, that is, this King here is given himself  to be in agreement with this beast, to make a league with him, that is, he is this seed that god was talking to this beast when he said this:

Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

What this seed is, it is none other than that of this King having a Carnal Mind, a mind that loves to take this law, used it to hold dominion with, as he is depicted here as this that eve would give birth too, that is, as she gave to this Incarnate of what this beast is, or this Transfiguration of that which this Angel was able to do, just as Paul said he is, and not only him, but he has his Ministers that he transforms as he is transformed into an Angel of Light:

2 Corinthians 11:12-16 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. I say again, Let no man think me a fool; if otherwise, yet as a fool receive me, that I may boast myself a little.

You must know that this all is somewhat a mystery, just as Jesus was this mystery, and even when he stood there among his disciples he wanted to unveil this mystery to them, as he showed them who he was, and who it is that all this came from, or out of:

Luke 24:37-41 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet. And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

These Disciples was looking not at a spirit, but they beheld his glory, as the begotten, not that body that was this lamb that was sacrificed on that cross, but this body, which hath flesh and bone, as Jesus told them to come and Handled it.

Just what did it feel like as they touched this glorified body, mind you, it was not a Spirit, or as it said that this god was Invisible, the reason it was Invisible was that it was hidden from the princes of this world, that being this King  that is spoken about above.

1 Corinthians 2:6-10 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

He is talking about those Princes of Darkness, or those that was said to be them, or those that came out from among them, but not of them.

1 John 2:17-21 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

As John is saying that they came out from among them, but was not one of them, or us, meaning that they are this seed of this Beast, who has wanted to be like god:

Isaiah 14:13-14 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

The only way that this flesh, and those that walk in the flesh, not of the spirit, meaning as this is as their way of ascension to that which is above all flesh in this world, and this they use this law, which has good, or is good, taken this law, and mix evil, which is this seed, or this fruit from this tree of Satan, which was created and adorned by god to be in charge, or to lead all the other angels to be servants to those as this angel told John that he was his servant and to all those that are the born again of god.

Revelation 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

What Jesus was saying to those there when he showed this body of flesh, mind you this glorified flesh, it was not just a spirit, or as we say the wind is, which we cannot see, but feel it, and see it move the trees when it blows upon them, but his was a body of flesh and bones.

Jesus wanted those that he had taught for this time when he did what he did, and we might say it was this icing on the cake that convinced those that was there, namely those Twelve Disciples to not just talk about this as a Mystery, but to be treated as this god that we was created out of, and In, this was this god that was in Jesus Christ, as he walked with this same like flesh that we have.

Jesus took on our likeness so that we could take on his likeness, and this is how that god created us in this beginning, to be like this one that is saying to those Disciples,  “ come and feel”

God wants us to feel him, to handle him, and he wants to know us in this manner, that we can come to him, and we might say, sit down by him in the throne in his son, in doing so, he is glorified in us, and we are glorified in him.

We have his same choice, we can be one of them, or we can be one of us, that is to become like:

Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

To know both good and evil, Adam has not become this, just as god knew both good and evil, but god wants us to know only that which is good.

God was saying to Adam, when you take this that is good from this tree, mix it with this Evil that this Beast is, or his fruit is place in with that which is good, then this evil corrupts this tree, or this way of life, and you must do one or the other:

Matthew 12:31-35 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

Yes god told Adam and Eve, you can eat from any tree in this garden of Eden,  with the exception of this one, because in this tree, this Beast has learned, or took on himself to mix that which god is, or this law is, and corrupt yourselves with this evil practices, taking this law, which is good, and taking that which is self centered, or wanting to excel to this height of that is above all the other trees:

Ezekiel 31:7-11 Thus was he fair in his greatness, in the length of his branches: for his root was by great waters. The cedars in the garden of God could not hide him: the fir trees were not like his boughs, and the chesnut trees were not like his branches; nor any tree in the garden of God was like unto him in his beauty. I have made him fair by the multitude of his branches: so that all the trees of Eden, that were in the garden of God, envied him. Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast lifted up thyself in height, and he hath shot up his top among the thick boughs, and his heart is lifted up in his height; I have therefore delivered him into the hand of the mighty one of the heathen; he shall surely deal with him: I have driven him out for his wickedness.

When you see those that want to excel up to this that they can tell you that they are the ones that you should look up too, then you might want to take another look at this that is this same fruit from this Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, who wants to gain power, or dominion over your faith.

2 Corinthians 1:20-24 For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us. Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God; Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts. Moreover I call God for a record upon my soul, that to spare you I came not as yet unto Corinth. Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your joy: for by faith ye stand.

“he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God”

The way that he establishes us is, to have Christ formed in you and I, and that is that glory that god glorified Jesus with when he was hanging on that cross.

John 17:3-7 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.

Then how can we be the glory of god unless we have this Christ in us, that is, unless we walk in the Spirit of the Holy Ghost, which Seals Us.

2 Corinthians 1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

It is this Spirit of Truth, this Power of his Word, which is Spirit, when it is in our hearts, then we become as a little Child, or as little children, and you and I know that little children have parents that they must obey, even when those parents do not the truth, those children are expected to obey their parents.

This means that as long as we are the Heirs, we, when we are in this flesh, in this world, we are not different than a servant;

Galatians 4:1-9 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all; But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father. Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world: But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ. Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods. But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?

This above is just the results of this fruit that Adam and Eve was so eager to eat from this tree, so that they could be driven out of this garden, which also had this Tree of Life;

Genesis 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

When we stop for a minute and think about it, it is just the same, as King Solomon said it was, meaning that which has been is now, and that which is now hath been already.

What that beast did then to Eve, and she did by taking it to her husband, it is what is going on now, and we are so eager to be driven from the presence of this garden which has this tree of life in the middle of it.

There in the Garden of Eden, they had to go to this Tree of Life, just as we today have to go to this Tree of life, which is Jesus Christ, but we like to look around this world, among all the other trees, beholding that which can make us wise, and seeing that this fruit can cause us to excel to the height of that which we set our mind upon.

You see, god just don’t go around knocking everything out of your way, and when this Beast, he knows how to get your attention, and the best way he can is to get you to first of all, is to come close to this tree that has both good, which is god, and also has on it this which is Evil, which is the ways of this Beast, and if he can get you to look, lust after this fruit, or this tree, as this tree looks great from a distance;

Matthew 21:17-21 And he left them, and went out of the city into Bethany; and he lodged there. Now in the morning as he returned into the city, he hungered. And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away. And when the disciples saw it, they marvelled, saying, How soon is the fig tree withered away! Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.

Now we all have preached from the pulpits that this tree was this that is known as those Jews, which was there when Jesus came to them, being excited that they would receive him, and he would be able to wipe away all the sin of disobedience that they had, but as this Tree from this distance, when Jesus looked at it, he was giving us a revelation of those outward Jews, which had made an agreement with hell, just as Eve took this fruit, they took this law, made it a letter to kill with, and killed this Son of God.

When Jesus looked from afar off, signifying that this being his people, that this tree, which they was this fig, or was to have fruit that he could eat from, he come close and found as it was, they had made an agreement with hell.

He told us that that tree would never bear any fruit, that is, the fruit of righteousness would not come out of this that had corrupted itself by making this agreement with hell.

He also Annulled this agreement, meaning that they could come to him, just as Peter, being a Jew, and Saul being a Jew, these when this light come to them, it shined upon them, then they became what Paul said:

Romans 2:25-29 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law? For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

These all, including Jesus, they were circumcised on the outward man, being this that was a sign  that this Inward Jew, to become that, they would have to be Circumcised of the heart, which they still do not want this kind of circumcision, as it will cause them to have to turn from this unbelief, which is the sole reason that many of them fell in the wilderness as they were on this journey to the promise land.

This is the reason that this people that has come back, as they are just a Jew on the outside only, and god does love them, but as long as they are only a Jew on the outside, then they will never become a Jew on the inward, and all this modern day church, they are supporting them in what they have become, or have been from that time that god called them to make his name great.

They made his name great alright, they killed him, but this kind of making his name great, is being used by god to fulfill his promise that he made to Abraham, and to all that come by this Tree of Life.

I know that you believe the bible, and that you believe that John was one of the Twelve, then why don’t you stand in the face of those like Jesus did, and take this power of this Holy Ghost, look at those outward, I won’t call them a Jew, but as Jesus said;

John 8:42-46 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

If you have read these writings how that I was privileged to  witness to some Jews on the outward, and telling them that, as they told me that they were from Jerusalem, and I said I was from Jerusalem, which came as a shock to them for a moment, but when I said that I was from the Jerusalem of above, which is the mother of us all:

Galatians 4:24-28 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband. Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

I begin to ask this lady that said she had this water from the dead sea, that would heal me if I had anything wrong with me, but she was selling it, not giving like god did when he gave his son.

I asked her if she believe in Jesus Christ, and she said that she would never believe in him, and when I asked her if she believed, or I said “you don’t believe in the Holy Ghost” she got real upset, told me that she would never believe in the holy ghost, and for me to leave her booth there in that mall, and with that the other Jews on the outward, they began to chant, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew real loud as many was listening to this was taking place.

John said that those that do not believe that Jesus is  the Messiah, they don’t have the father, and that they are Antichrist.

No wonder that Jesus said that they would never bear, as he said about this Fig Tree, that it would never bear any fruit from then to forever.

I am convince that is why they come back holding onto this that those fore-fathers held on, which they killed Jesus, hang him on this cruel cross.

Hebrews 6:4-8 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.

A tree that is cursed from the roots up, it cannot live and bear any fruit, but it can begin to grow if there is that seed of faith that is planted in good ground.

Good ground has both tares, and has, like soil, it has all kinds of weeds, grass, but if it is taken care of, it will, along with all this tares, it will produce fruit, it will eventually die, but the seed from this that is good, it will spring up into everlasting life.

This tree of life, it stand just as it stood there in the Garden of Eden, and it can be eaten from, or you can wander around this world and come up to this Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, listen to this beast tell you that it will make you wise, it will open your eyes to be able to see that it will make you wise in this world, but that wisdom is foolishness with god;

1 Corinthians 3:17-21 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain. Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;

Just as Job said, god Is not in any hurry to cut you down, even when you eat fruit from the wrong tree, he wants, waits patiently for you to choose the tree of life.

Which trees have you, or are you eating from today?

Are you wise in this world, or are you wise in the Holy Ghost?

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